Significantly revised at 2024-01-10 with the discovery of new serial numbers which clarify several points that were speculative earlier.
A list of known ELEX K1, K2, K3, K4 serial numbers (including rebranded models). These seem to come as 2-part numbers; it’s not certain what the parts are, but it seems likely to be batch and serial. (It isn’t week and serial, as it’s continuous across at least four years of production, 1976–1979.)
(For details of the instruments and revisions see here. The rn for revision+number is my addition, not part of the original model numbers.)
The numbering system found here may have been introduced with the K1r2, but no K1r1 number is yet known.
Revision 1 K4s had an external power supply and volume pedal, like some older electronic organs. The serial number / rating plates were on this unit rather than the keyboard itself. These are rarely photographed and are sometimes missing. There appears to have been a revision 2 with some differences in the power/pedal connection. K4r3s have a different case but no internal photography has been found.
So long as we regard the parts as separate (or assume a zero-padded second part), the known numbers seem to be in a continuous sequence across the revisions, between models, and across all brands. The same system seems to have been used for at least some other ELEX instruments at the time [1] but it is not clear whether the other models used the same actual sequence. Unless this point can be clarified (by finding a number collision between models) it will not be possible to use the numbers to estimate production volumes. (The later EK 2 and EK61 had four-digit serial numbers, so are not part of this sequence.)
(With the uncertain exception of 21 14) the serial numbers found in batches 20–31 have a prefixed slash. [2] All numbers known in these batches are two-digit, so it is not yet known how one- or three-digit numbers are treated, if there are any.
With the discovery of another new K2 serial number it has become apparent that the revision sequence I had used earlier is wrong; the earlier ‘revision 1’ type is later than the ‘revision 2’ type, so I’m reversing that numbering.
Most of the examples found are Hohner-branded. Other brands are noted in the table. Anecdotally, the String-Orchestras (both black/silver and wooden) are often said to have been sold by Farfisa.
K1 | K2 | K3 | K4 | notes | ||||
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r2 | 3 64 | |||||||
r2 | 13 151 | |||||||
r1 | 14 191 | the label is on the PSU/volume unit | ||||||
r2 | 17 73 | |||||||
r2 | 17 96 | |||||||
r1 | 20 /45 | ELEX | ||||||
r1 | 21 14 | (Information from John Gilmore) | ||||||
r1 | 26 /15 | stand unknown | ||||||
r1 | 27 /57 | ELEX; stand unknown | ||||||
r2 | 30 /17 | |||||||
r1 | 31 /65 | Sebastian’s silvertop String-Orchestra r1; has end stand attachments | ||||||
r1 | 50 6 | Wood (veneer) String-Orchestra, the top panel is clearly off-white and the lid is black vinyl. No end stand attachments. | ||||||
106 17 | (info. from Pablo Txivo) | |||||||
r2 | 106 70 | ELEX; s/n difficult to make out; stand unknown | ||||||
r2 | 109 144 | |||||||
r2 | 118 13 | may have end stand attachments | ||||||
r2 | 126 45 | silvertop String-Orchestra r2; has end stand attachments and stand | ||||||
r2/3? | 131 86 | This is the "VSE Comment K1", not seen; unclear whether an r2 or r3. | ||||||
r4 | 150 21 | |||||||
r3 | 153 45 | has end stand attachments | ||||||
r3 | 155 53 | ELEX. The 5s here are uncertain. | ||||||
r5 | 163 95 | |||||||
r3 | 167 24 | |||||||
r3 | 170 76 | The power rating seems to be wrong. Has end stand attachments. | ||||||
r3 | 173 62 | ELEX; has end stand attachments | ||||||
r3 | 173 97 | stand unknown | ||||||
r6 | 174 99 | |||||||
r3 | 177 25 | |||||||
r3 | 177 103 |
From which, so far, conclusions are:
- The K2 type with the pedalboard connector and trimmer on the underside is the original version. This is now regarded as revision 1 here and elsewhere in this site. [3]
- All three known K2 branding types, ELEX, Hohner, and String-Orchestra, were used for r1, r2, and r3. [4] (One K2r3 with Excelsior branding is known, from the time after ELEX ceased to operate as an independent brand.)
- The K4 (r3) blacktop was probably introduced before the K1 (r6) blacktop.
- (Tentatively so far) it seems likely that the K2 wooden String Orchestras did not have stand attachment plates, but all others did.
Appendix: Power ratings
The power ratings given on the K1 and K2 models vary for unclear reasons.
K1r2s are either 25W or 16W rated; later revisions (only one example of each) seem to be 10W. This may imply some under-the-cover changes in the r2. The power regulator board in r1 seems to be quite different from that in r5 and r6. However, on the basis of the K2 (below) the ratings given may not be reliable.
K1r2 | 17 73 | 16W |
17 96 | 16W | |
30 /17 | 16W | |
109 144 | 25W | |
K1r4 | 150 21 | 10W |
K1r5 | 163 95 | 10W |
K1r6 | 174 99 | 10W |
Earlier r2s didn’t give a power rating and I haven’t yet seen labels for r1 or r3, but the 12→1 oscillators change was the r3/r4 step.
K2r1s all seem to be 16W. K2r2 plates I’ve seen photographed are mostly 25W but some are 16W. At the time of writing I haven’t seen any interior shots of an r2.
K2r3s may be rated either 16W or 10W but I have concluded that on a K2r3 I’ve been working on, the power rating is simply wrong, as if a 10W rated plate was put on the back just because they’d run out of 25W ones. Its actual power consumption seems to be 22–23W. This implies that none of the power ratings for this model can be trusted, and cannot be used to establish anything about the sequence or circuitry changes.
The only K3 plate I’ve seen with an interpretable power rating was 18W. All K4s with visible plates are 14W.
Appendix: Diagram Dates
I’ve found the following dates on service manuals and schematics for these models, and what I think are diagram numbers rather than model numbers:
diagram nº | date | ||
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K1r1 | 1002 | 1974-04-17 | |
K1r2? | 1013 | 1975-01-27 | On the basis of date/number this is unlikely to be one of the later revisions, but it’s not known whether r3–r5 had separate schematics; this may be more of a generic HIP II diagram. |
K3 | 1015 | 1975-04-08 | |
K2r1 | 1018 | 1975-06-25 | The same date is used on the r1 & r2 plans, so can probably be regarded as a model introduction date. |
K2r2 | 1019 | ||
K4r2? | 1020 | 1975-07-18 | The number being later than the K2r2, it’s possible that as with the K2 diagrams the date is preserved from r1 but the diagram is r2. That would require the K4r1 to have come in at 1016/7 before the K2r1 — which is not impossible as it was clearly being designed alongside the K2. The diagram shows signs of being a later version than the original as one sheet shows the earlier OS-2 oscillator board but another has an OS-5. (In practice I am told that some K4s used the OS-4 revision.) But this is clearly not r3 as it still shows the external power supply. [5] |
K1r6 | s103 | 1978-04-19 | ELEX ‘Professional Piano’, new numbering scheme. |
These dates were all found on front pages or covers for the documents. Unlike some other manufacturers Excelsior seem not to have dated the actual diagrams, and never seem to have given revision numbers or dates. After 1978 they seem to have stopped giving the dates on the covers too.
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Notes
- e.g. 113 153 is a contemporary Hohner organ manufactured by ELEX, the 49R. ↖
- In an earlier revision of this page the interim assumption was that the slashes were digit 1, but it has become clear that this is not the case. ↖
- In an earlier revision of this page this was regarded as uncertain, with the balance of evidence favouring it being revision 2. ↖
- At 2024-08-13, Sebastian has some pictures of a K2r3 String-Orchestra, but the serial number is not clear. ↖
- I received this copy of the diagram with an accompanying letter dated April 1979, from Hohner UK, giving advice on PSU upgrades, which clearly refers to the original PSU configuration, not the r3, but which refers to early and late model K4s. This does not date the diagram. It establishes that there were two revisions before the r3 but it seems that, a) there is very little difference other than the power connection, and b) that some earlier models will have been converted to the later syle, so it is probably not possible to reliably distinguish them. Nor is it clear that this revision applied across all national markets; it may even have been purely a UK thing. So I am not counting it in the revision numbers. ↖
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by Pablo Txivo on 2024-12-30 12:26
Hi! I really love the spam messages, I was tempted to select one of them, but I don't want to die in the spam folder haha.
I recently got an Elex K2 (serial number is "106 17", just in case it's usefull). My father found it under some boxes in my grand-father workshop. It has been there for so long I didn't even saw it ever in more than 30 years.
I'm trying to get it working. But it's in a really bad shape. I wanted to ask if you have some schematics or any tip for the technician that will be looking at it.
Thanks in advance!
Pablo.
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by electropict on 2025-01-03 15:04
Thanks for the information.
My full repair article for a revision 3 K2 starts here. I probably don’t have anything to add, but if you want to ask about the details, go ahead. My K2r3 schematics are here as a single PDF. If (as seems likely) you have a revision 2 K2 there will be some differences, particularly in the ensemble effect circuitry which is simpler in rev.1–2. (2 rather than 3 delay boards.) The schematics mention the differences, but I’ve since obtained the original schematics and am hoping to scan them soon. (Scanner on the way.)
Can I take it that you have an ELEX-branded rather than Hohner K2? If you’re intending to post pictures of it or of the repair I’d be happy to link to them.
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