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Posted under Projects at . Last updated 2025-01-03 14:51.
Tags:ELEX, Hohner, reference, HIP II, K1, K2, Stringvox, K4, String‑Orchestra (ELEX), K3

Significantly revised at 2024-01-10 with the discovery of new serial numbers which clarify several points that were speculative earlier.

A list of known ELEX K1, K2, K3, K4 serial numbers (including rebranded models). These seem to come as 2-part numbers; it’s not certain what the parts are, but it seems likely to be batch and serial. (It isn’t week and serial, as it’s continuous across at least four years of production, 1976–1979.)

(For details of the instruments and revisions see here. The rn for revision+number is my addition, not part of the original model numbers.)

The numbering system found here may have been introduced with the K1r2, but no K1r1 number is yet known.

Revision 1 K4s had an external power supply and volume pedal, like some older electronic organs. The serial number / rating plates were on this unit rather than the keyboard itself. These are rarely photographed and are sometimes missing. There appears to have been a revision 2 with some differences in the power/pedal connection. K4r3s have a different case but no internal photography has been found.

So long as we regard the parts as separate (or assume a zero-padded second part), the known numbers seem to be in a continuous sequence across the revisions, between models, and across all brands. The same system seems to have been used for at least some other ELEX instruments at the time [1] but it is not clear whether the other models used the same actual sequence. Unless this point can be clarified (by finding a number collision between models) it will not be possible to use the numbers to estimate production volumes. (The later EK 2 and EK61 had four-digit serial numbers, so are not part of this sequence.)

(With the uncertain exception of 21 14) the serial numbers found in batches 20–31 have a prefixed slash. [2] All numbers known in these batches are two-digit, so it is not yet known how one- or three-digit numbers are treated, if there are any.

With the discovery of another new K2 serial number it has become apparent that the revision sequence I had used earlier is wrong; the earlier revision 1 type is later than the revision 2 type, so I’m reversing that numbering.

Most of the examples found are Hohner-branded. Other brands are noted in the table. Anecdotally, the String-Orchestras (both black/silver and wooden) are often said to have been sold by Farfisa.

K1 K2 K3 K4 notes
r23  64
r213 151
r114 191the label is on the PSU/volume unit
r217  73
r217  96
r120 /45ELEX
r121  14(Information from John Gilmore)
r126 /15stand unknown
r127 /57ELEX; stand unknown
r230 /17
r131 /65Sebastian’s silvertop String-Orchestra r1; has end stand attachments
r150   6Wood (veneer) String-Orchestra, the top panel is clearly off-white and the lid is black vinyl. No end stand attachments.
106  17(info. from Pablo Txivo)
r2106  70ELEX; s/n difficult to make out; stand unknown
r2109 144
r2118  13may have end stand attachments
r2126  45silvertop String-Orchestra r2; has end stand attachments and stand
r2/3?131  86This is the "VSE Comment K1", not seen; unclear whether an r2 or r3.
r4150  21
r3153  45has end stand attachments
r3155  53ELEX. The 5s here are uncertain.
r5163  95
r3167  24
r3170  76The power rating seems to be wrong. Has end stand attachments.
r3173  62ELEX; has end stand attachments
r3173  97stand unknown
r6174  99
r3177  25
r3177 103

From which, so far, conclusions are:


Appendix: Power ratings

The power ratings given on the K1 and K2 models vary for unclear reasons.

K1r2s are either 25W or 16W rated; later revisions (only one example of each) seem to be 10W. This may imply some under-the-cover changes in the r2. The power regulator board in r1 seems to be quite different from that in r5 and r6. However, on the basis of the K2 (below) the ratings given may not be reliable.

K1r217 7316W
17 9616W
30 /1716W
109 14425W
K1r4150 2110W
K1r5163 9510W
K1r6174 9910W

Earlier r2s didn’t give a power rating and I haven’t yet seen labels for r1 or r3, but the 12→1 oscillators change was the r3/r4 step.

K2r1s all seem to be 16W. K2r2 plates I’ve seen photographed are mostly 25W but some are 16W. At the time of writing I haven’t seen any interior shots of an r2.

K2r3s may be rated either 16W or 10W but I have concluded that on a K2r3 I’ve been working on, the power rating is simply wrong, as if a 10W rated plate was put on the back just because they’d run out of 25W ones. Its actual power consumption seems to be 22–23W. This implies that none of the power ratings for this model can be trusted, and cannot be used to establish anything about the sequence or circuitry changes.

The only K3 plate I’ve seen with an interpretable power rating was 18W. All K4s with visible plates are 14W.


Appendix: Diagram Dates

I’ve found the following dates on service manuals and schematics for these models, and what I think are diagram numbers rather than model numbers:

diagram nºdate
K1r110021974-04-17
K1r2?10131975-01-27On the basis of date/number this is unlikely to be one of the later revisions, but it’s not known whether r3–r5 had separate schematics; this may be more of a generic HIP II diagram.
K310151975-04-08
K2r110181975-06-25The same date is used on the r1 & r2 plans, so can probably be regarded as a model introduction date.
K2r21019
K4r2?10201975-07-18The number being later than the K2r2, it’s possible that as with the K2 diagrams the date is preserved from r1 but the diagram is r2. That would require the K4r1 to have come in at 1016/7 before the K2r1 — which is not impossible as it was clearly being designed alongside the K2. The diagram shows signs of being a later version than the original as one sheet shows the earlier OS-2 oscillator board but another has an OS-5. (In practice I am told that some K4s used the OS-4 revision.) But this is clearly not r3 as it still shows the external power supply. [5]
K1r6s1031978-04-19ELEX Professional Piano, new numbering scheme.

These dates were all found on front pages or covers for the documents. Unlike some other manufacturers Excelsior seem not to have dated the actual diagrams, and never seem to have given revision numbers or dates. After 1978 they seem to have stopped giving the dates on the covers too.


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Comments

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by Pablo Txivo on 2024-12-30 12:26

Hi! I really love the spam messages, I was tempted to select one of them, but I don't want to die in the spam folder haha.

I recently got an Elex K2 (serial number is "106 17", just in case it's usefull). My father found it under some boxes in my grand-father workshop. It has been there for so long I didn't even saw it ever in more than 30 years.

I'm trying to get it working. But it's in a really bad shape. I wanted to ask if you have some schematics or any tip for the technician that will be looking at it.

Thanks in advance!

Pablo.

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by electropict on 2025-01-03 15:04

Thanks for the information.

My full repair article for a revision 3 K2 starts here. I probably don’t have anything to add, but if you want to ask about the details, go ahead. My K2r3 schematics are here as a single PDF. If (as seems likely) you have a revision 2 K2 there will be some differences, particularly in the ensemble effect circuitry which is simpler in rev.1–2. (2 rather than 3 delay boards.) The schematics mention the differences, but Ive since obtained the original schematics and am hoping to scan them soon. (Scanner on the way.)

Can I take it that you have an ELEX-branded rather than Hohner K2? If you’re intending to post pictures of it or of the repair I’d be happy to link to them.

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Notes

  1. e.g. 113 153 is a contemporary Hohner organ manufactured by ELEX, the 49R.  
  2. In an earlier revision of this page the interim assumption was that the slashes were digit 1, but it has become clear that this is not the case.  
  3. In an earlier revision of this page this was regarded as uncertain, with the balance of evidence favouring it being revision 2.  
  4. At 2024-08-13, Sebastian has some pictures of a K2r3 String-Orchestra, but the serial number is not clear.  
  5. I received this copy of the diagram with an accompanying letter dated April 1979, from Hohner UK, giving advice on PSU upgrades, which clearly refers to the original PSU configuration, not the r3, but which refers to early and late model K4s. This does not date the diagram. It establishes that there were two revisions before the r3 but it seems that, a) there is very little difference other than the power connection, and b) that some earlier models will have been converted to the later syle, so it is probably not possible to reliably distinguish them. Nor is it clear that this revision applied across all national markets; it may even have been purely a UK thing. So I am not counting it in the revision numbers.  

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